These patch notes came straight from DICE, confirmed by Alan Kertz (Demize99):
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UPDATE: Added PDW Damage changes
1. Damage changes
Assault Rifles:
All assault rifles except G3A1
Min damage 17 -> 18.4
G3A1
Min Damage 20 -> 22
Max damage 30 -> 34
Carbines
SCAR-H
Min Damage 17 -> 20
LMGs
M60 & M240B
Max damage 30 -> 34
Min damage 20 -> 22
PKP
Min damage 20 -> 22
M249, M27IAR, RPK-74M
Min damage 17 -> 18.4
Sniper rifles
All sniper rifles:
Upper chest damage multiplier 1 -> 1.25
Note that all the bolt-action sniper rifles will 1hit kill under distances of 15 meters
M98B
Max damage 95 -> 80
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 120
All other bolt-action sniper rifles
Max damage 75 -> 80
Min damage 55 -> 59
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 100
All semiautomatic sniper rifles except SKS:
Min damage: 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start distance 12 -> 15
SKS
Dropoff end distance 50 -> 60
Shotguns
12g Slug (Auto & Semiauto)
Max damage 50 -> 75
Min damage 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
12g Slug (Pump-action)
Min damage 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
12g Frag (Auto & Semiauto)
Some weird things in the files, not 100% sure about frags yet.
Looks like only the min direct damage is reduced from 10 to 5
12g Frag (Pump-action)
Max direct hit damage 60 -> 67
Blast damage 30 -> 40
12g Buckshot
Max damage 20 -> 12.5
Dropoff start dist. 4 -> 8
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30
12g Flechette
Max damage 14.3 -> 11.2
Min damage 8.4 -> 8
Dropoff start dist. 12 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30
2. Attachments
Fore grip
Basically before it reduced the horizontal recoil by 50%, in these files it reduces h-recoil only ~20-33% depending on weapon.
It also increases the minimum spread 20% ~ 50% depending on stance and weapon.
Suppressor
Suppressors will not reduce the damage anymore.
Now it will reduce the distance where damage starts/stops to drop off instead.
For most weapons it will decrease the min spread by 25% instead of 50%
Although looks like M60 will still have the same 50% effect.
Heavy barrel
For most of the weapons it decreases ADS min spread by 75 or 50% depending on weapon.
Recoil is still increased by 10 or 15% and HIP min spread by 20-25% depending on weapon.
It doesn't make AN94 100% accurate anymore while aiming down the sight.
Reduces ADS min spread by 75% and only increases recoil by 10%, the hip fire penalty is 20% for AN94
G3A1 is same than AN94 except heavy barrel increases recoil 6.7% and hip fire is increased only 14.3%
For few weapons it also makes Spread increase per shot 10% higher.
It will also increase drop-off end distance by 50% making weapons more deadly at ranges between 50m and 90m, depending on weapon.
Flash suppressor
Will decrease recoil by 17 ~ 25% depending on weapon.
For most weapons it increases hip min spread by 20~25% but some weapons don't have any hip accuracy penalty.
Extended magazine
There seems to be extended magazine for AS VAL which didn't exist before.
With ext mag it will have 30 bullets in a mag instead of 20
3. Accuracy changes
Assault rifles
AEK971
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.3
ADS Min Spread, Not moving 0.2 -> 0.4
AK74M
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5
AN94
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.3
FirstSRecoilMul 1.5 -> 2
F2000
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.26
FAMAS
Recoil left 0.6 -> 0.35
Recoil right 0.6 -> 0.5
Recoil decrease 15 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.6
G3A1
Recoil up 0.55 -> 0.45
FirstSRecoilMul 1.2 -> 1.8
L85A2
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.2
M416
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.4
Carbines
AKS74u
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.2
HK53
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
Recoil left 0.3 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.35
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
SCAR-H
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
SG553
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.25
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2.2
QBZ-95B
Recoil left 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5
LMGs
M240
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.7
M249
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2.2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
M60
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5
MG36
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.8
PKP
Recoil up 0.75 -> 0.65
Recoil decrease 7 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.5
Max spread, ADS, not moving 1 -> 3
Type88
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
FirstSRecoilMul 1.34 -> 1.5
RPK
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.8
QBB-95
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.37
Recoil left 0.1 -> 0.4
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.4
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
PDWs
AS VAL
Recoil left 0.2 -> 0.25
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.45
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
PDW-R
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5
Min spread, ADS, moving 0.6 -> 0.8
Min spread, HIP, not moving
^ Standing 1.5 -> 2
^ Crouching 1 -> 1.5
^ Prone 0.75 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving
^ Standing 2 -> 2.5
^ Crouching 1.5 -> 2
^ Prone 1.25 -> 1.5
MP7
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
P90
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
PP-19
Recoil decrease 25 -> 20
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
PP2000
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
UMP45
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
Pistols
G18
Recoil up 0.7 -> 0.5
M9
RecoilDecrease 15 -> 30
M93R
Recoil up 0.5 -> 0.4
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.2
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
.44 Magnum
Spread increase 0.6 -> 0.3
Assault Rifles:
All assault rifles except G3A1
Min damage 17 -> 18.4
G3A1
Min Damage 20 -> 22
Max damage 30 -> 34
Carbines
SCAR-H
Min Damage 17 -> 20
LMGs
M60 & M240B
Max damage 30 -> 34
Min damage 20 -> 22
PKP
Min damage 20 -> 22
M249, M27IAR, RPK-74M
Min damage 17 -> 18.4
Sniper rifles
All sniper rifles:
Upper chest damage multiplier 1 -> 1.25
Note that all the bolt-action sniper rifles will 1hit kill under distances of 15 meters
M98B
Max damage 95 -> 80
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 120
All other bolt-action sniper rifles
Max damage 75 -> 80
Min damage 55 -> 59
Dropoff start dist. 20 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 75 -> 100
All semiautomatic sniper rifles except SKS:
Min damage: 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start distance 12 -> 15
SKS
Dropoff end distance 50 -> 60
Shotguns
12g Slug (Auto & Semiauto)
Max damage 50 -> 75
Min damage 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
12g Slug (Pump-action)
Min damage 34 -> 37.5
Dropoff start dist. 8 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 40 -> 50
12g Frag (Auto & Semiauto)
Some weird things in the files, not 100% sure about frags yet.
Looks like only the min direct damage is reduced from 10 to 5
12g Frag (Pump-action)
Max direct hit damage 60 -> 67
Blast damage 30 -> 40
12g Buckshot
Max damage 20 -> 12.5
Dropoff start dist. 4 -> 8
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30
12g Flechette
Max damage 14.3 -> 11.2
Min damage 8.4 -> 8
Dropoff start dist. 12 -> 15
Dropoff end dist. 25 -> 30
PDWs
P90 & MP7
Min damage 10 -> 11
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
PP2000
Min damage 10 -> 12.5
PDW-R
Min damage 12.5 -> 14.3
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 30
AS VAL
Min damage 16.7 -> 18.4
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
PP-19
Min damage 9.1 -> 12.5
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
UMP-45
Min damage 12.5 -> 13.75
P90 & MP7
Min damage 10 -> 11
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
PP2000
Min damage 10 -> 12.5
PDW-R
Min damage 12.5 -> 14.3
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 30
AS VAL
Min damage 16.7 -> 18.4
Drop-off start dist. 8 -> 4
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
PP-19
Min damage 9.1 -> 12.5
Drop-off end dist. 50 -> 40
UMP-45
Min damage 12.5 -> 13.75
2. Attachments
Fore grip
Basically before it reduced the horizontal recoil by 50%, in these files it reduces h-recoil only ~20-33% depending on weapon.
It also increases the minimum spread 20% ~ 50% depending on stance and weapon.
Suppressor
Suppressors will not reduce the damage anymore.
Now it will reduce the distance where damage starts/stops to drop off instead.
For most weapons it will decrease the min spread by 25% instead of 50%
Although looks like M60 will still have the same 50% effect.
Heavy barrel
For most of the weapons it decreases ADS min spread by 75 or 50% depending on weapon.
Recoil is still increased by 10 or 15% and HIP min spread by 20-25% depending on weapon.
It doesn't make AN94 100% accurate anymore while aiming down the sight.
Reduces ADS min spread by 75% and only increases recoil by 10%, the hip fire penalty is 20% for AN94
G3A1 is same than AN94 except heavy barrel increases recoil 6.7% and hip fire is increased only 14.3%
For few weapons it also makes Spread increase per shot 10% higher.
It will also increase drop-off end distance by 50% making weapons more deadly at ranges between 50m and 90m, depending on weapon.
Flash suppressor
Will decrease recoil by 17 ~ 25% depending on weapon.
For most weapons it increases hip min spread by 20~25% but some weapons don't have any hip accuracy penalty.
Extended magazine
There seems to be extended magazine for AS VAL which didn't exist before.
With ext mag it will have 30 bullets in a mag instead of 20
3. Accuracy changes
Assault rifles
AEK971
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.3
ADS Min Spread, Not moving 0.2 -> 0.4
AK74M
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5
AN94
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.3
FirstSRecoilMul 1.5 -> 2
F2000
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.26
FAMAS
Recoil left 0.6 -> 0.35
Recoil right 0.6 -> 0.5
Recoil decrease 15 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.6
G3A1
Recoil up 0.55 -> 0.45
FirstSRecoilMul 1.2 -> 1.8
L85A2
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.2
M416
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.4
Carbines
AKS74u
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 2.2
HK53
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.28
Recoil left 0.3 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.35
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
SCAR-H
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
SG553
Recoil up 0.3 -> 0.25
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2.2
QBZ-95B
Recoil left 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil right 0.5 -> 0.335
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5
LMGs
M240
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.7
M249
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2.2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
M60
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.5
MG36
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.8
PKP
Recoil up 0.75 -> 0.65
Recoil decrease 7 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 1.5
Max spread, ADS, not moving 1 -> 3
Type88
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.3
Recoil decrease 15 -> 12
FirstSRecoilMul 1.34 -> 1.5
RPK
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
FirstSRecoilMul 2 -> 1.8
QBB-95
Recoil up 0.45 -> 0.37
Recoil left 0.1 -> 0.4
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.4
FirstSRecoilMul 1 -> 2
Recoil decrease 15 -> 13
PDWs
AS VAL
Recoil left 0.2 -> 0.25
Recoil right 0.3 -> 0.45
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
PDW-R
Recoil decrease 22 -> 18
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, ADS, not moving 0.4 -> 0.5
Min spread, ADS, moving 0.6 -> 0.8
Min spread, HIP, not moving
^ Standing 1.5 -> 2
^ Crouching 1 -> 1.5
^ Prone 0.75 -> 1
Min spread, HIP, moving
^ Standing 2 -> 2.5
^ Crouching 1.5 -> 2
^ Prone 1.25 -> 1.5
MP7
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
P90
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
PP-19
Recoil decrease 25 -> 20
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
PP2000
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
UMP45
Min spread, HIP, not moving, prone & crouching 0.75 -> 1.2
Min spread, HIP,moving, prone & crouching 1.25 -> 1.5
Pistols
G18
Recoil up 0.7 -> 0.5
M9
RecoilDecrease 15 -> 30
M93R
Recoil up 0.5 -> 0.4
Recoil left 0.4 -> 0.2
Recoil right 0.4 -> 0.2
FirstSRecoilMul 2.5 -> 2
.44 Magnum
Spread increase 0.6 -> 0.3
Source: Symthic
12 comments:
Just fix the f**king bugs instead of the weapon balancing.. I swear I'll hang up my flak jacket and put away my boots if they don't address the stupidly obvious bugs in the next patch.
m16a3 neeeds nerfing why isnt it ever nerfed, it has hardly any recoil nearly every player picks this weapon now.
Too many NERFs, the L85A2 accuracy NERF is NOT NEEDED, it is already pretty inaccurate.
DICE need to sort real in-game problems out like promised features such as VOIP, jeep horns, re-designed UI, commo rose etc...
What about fixes for DCs, crashing on round ending, having to load the game up when you want to switch server, black screens on load up....
"m16a3 neeeds nerfing why isnt it ever nerfed, it has hardly any recoil nearly every player picks this weapon now."
The only reason these guns are being NERFed is because whiners like you pick on something and call it to be NERFed, then you pick on something else and call for it to be NERFed because it is working as it should... everything else is just under powered because you whined too much and they got NERFED.
NO MORE FUCKING NERFS! DICE YOUR LOOSING THE RESPECT OF BATTLEFIELD FANS!
Just fix that input lag... Nothin else is more important!
That input lag makes this game absolutely shit and unplayable.
How many days is it now, about 200d without a fix?
I´ll choose MW-series instead of this in the future, if this is the proper way to act with us, customers.
Most of these Nerf Beggers will never be satisfied until every Weapon in the game acts alike. How much fun it would be to choose from Weapons that all have same Damage, same Recoil, etc. Of Course there will be and should be some weapons that are better in some situations. Just choose whatever suits the best to your Play Style and quit whining for Gods sake.
Although USAS12 with Frag Ammo is pretty much "Easy Mode" ;)
Nerd the full auto USAS-12 that thing is spoiling the game!
Also get RID of MAV road kills. They are beyond annoying. Like a fly buzzing around lowered the audio for them as well.
Allow assault to use the M4a1 or allow engineer to REMOVE launchers!
i agree fix the bugs first. Weird things are happening consistently e.g not being able to switch weapons, helicopters exploding in mid air for no reason, falling through the ground, constant crashing, jet gun lag and draw distance issues, flickering smoke glitches etc
Then rush mode needs a lot of work (map design and increasig time for attackers. and also recon class needs mortar type weapon from bfbc2 so they can takeout vehicles. All buildings shou;d be accessible in maps from now on. cold war and heavy metal should be next maps
NONE of these Damage changes should be needed...
only fix the m16a3, USAS-12, and the MAV getting road kills and MAV getting up buildings.... its just retarded. im starting to lose respect for DICE.
Still no private servers for consoles.......are you fucking kidding me DICE?
They are fixings the bugs you Mongoloid. This is just a list of tweaks. try looking for the bug fixes before running you're mouth.
Put in Private matches in already i need to practice flying
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